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grnthumb
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posted November 08, 2009 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for grnthumb     Edit/Delete Message
Yahoos are out there running around with guns maiming and killing deer. I saw 5 carcasses last week dumped along the road before the season started. One or two had only a haunch removed - it couldn't have been because the poachers were starving. List of crimes start with poaching, trespassing , health code violations, and downright sleaziness. What a waste.

A lot of us - maybe nearly all of us - live close enough to some place where the guns go off all season. With even little kids allowed to shoot in this backward state it's probably just a matter of time until a two-legged critter gets in the way of bullets.

There are some good things about living here, but this is NOT one of them.

This is probably next:
http://www.theonion.com/content/radio_news/shoot_and_release_program

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starstruck
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posted November 08, 2009 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, hey, you may be on to something here. Shoot and release, hmmmm. I think I'll break out the 30/30 and start with the neighbors dog. If the banging of gun shots gets too bad there's always Williamson County and Sun City.

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freewill
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posted November 08, 2009 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freewill     Edit/Delete Message
When I first moved here I thought the deer were nice animals but have begun to hate them. I wish I could shoot every one of those 4-legged pests in my neighborhood. There are just too many deer in the populated areas due to some Yahoos feeding them tons of corn. Damaged cars and landscape plants not to mention the stinking droppings all over the yard, could be worse than poachers. The hunting season just doesn’t last long enough or the hunters are lousy shots so the deer population keeps increasing.

I don’t condone poaching or any other crime, but I am looking for a less-than-lethal way to run the deer off from my neighborhood, and maybe even the corn feeders. Any ideas?

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Jim
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posted November 08, 2009 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim     Edit/Delete Message
The deer population comes with the territory when one lives in the hill country. I fed them for awhile, but was told they need to fend for themselves, so I stopped. Yes, they've eaten those plants, including catus, I've been told they didn't bother. I wasn't aware hunters were dumping them along the roadways. What a shame and I hope the law enforcement types catch them red handed.

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freewill
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posted November 08, 2009 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freewill     Edit/Delete Message
Long before I moved here I was visiting Texas during deer season and was shocked by the number of headless Carcasses I saw along side the highways. I think that must be illegal. I suspected some “great white hunters” took the head and rack and just threw the rest away. Big brave “hunters” that shoot deer from blinds, over corncribs and then brag about the hunt. This is best called harvesting or slaughtering, not hunting. Even with those methods there are still too many deer.

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Zac
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posted November 08, 2009 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zac     Edit/Delete Message
Freewill, wonder why you moved to Wimberley if you don't like deer? Like moving to the Arctic if you don't like snow. You'll learn to cohabit with them once you figure out how to protect your plants and enjoy the view.

I sure do agree with you about one thing. The slaughtering and dumping of carcasses is illegal.

If people learn to keep an eye out for those jerks it wouldn't take long to catch them. A hefty fine or a stint in jail might make them think twice next time.

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rammie01
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posted November 08, 2009 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rammie01     Edit/Delete Message
Don't blame the overpopulation of deer on those few who feed them. Put the blame where it belongs - the cattle industry and man. The main reason for the overpopulation of deer is the eradication of the screwworm by 1966. Screwworms are parasites that caused great damage to domestic livestock and other warm blooded animals, such as deer. Eradication of the screwworm to protect the cattle industry $$$ also created another problem. Part of keeping the deer population in check was the screwworm. Following the eradication of screwworm from Texas the deer population increased more than threefold over that of 1960. It helped the cattle industry but created another, as is always the case when man intervenes. I too am appalled that the poachers are back again. I am starting to hear the gunshots and wonder what our law enforcement is doing about it. There isn’t a lot of crime going on around here - just speeders.
Personally I like the deer - I think they are a cheap source of entertainment, esp. during rut.

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Miss Chris
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posted November 09, 2009 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Chris     Edit/Delete Message
There is an over population of deer because people have killed off all of their natural predators. I have had a dog killed by deer hunters so I don't trust most of them (yes he was in my back yard where other neighbors had put up a deer feeder, a deer blind, and rented it out to valley people which I didn't know about). Some of them just don't have any idea how dangerous the weapons they have in their hands are. And when they start chugging the beer too-watch out. On the other hand a responsible deer hunter will kill one deer and make sure they use all of the meat.

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jerry
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posted November 09, 2009 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jerry     Edit/Delete Message
Some possible solutions: relocate the deer, require property fronting major roads to erect deer-proof fencing, to be paid for by either the property owner or the county, ban deer feeders on lots less than 10 acres and/or convince hunters and some meat processing plants to donate the meat to those in need.

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Ginia M
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posted November 09, 2009 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ginia M     Edit/Delete Message
My problem is with the fact that even in the boonies (I live in Burnett Ranch), properties are getting closer and closer together with new building, etc. We hear guns all over the place and I am worried that a stray bullet will make it's way into our yard or someone elses. My old dog is a nervous wreck and hates the sound of gunshots. We thought of putting a deer feeder, salt block and water in our yard and drawing all the deer to our property so we could save their carcasses from the nuts in the woods. Yeah, I am not big on hunting as most of hte hunters I have known are macho goons, but there are responsible ones, as Miss Chris said. BTW, we lost a dog to a neighbor on the last day of hunting season years ago. This pup and another of our dogs got out of the house by accident and ran up the hill and this guy, up in Timmeron, shot one of them. He'd come over on Thanksgiving Day giving us a warning that he'd do it and sure enough, it happened. So, that may color my opinion some.

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Reddog
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posted November 09, 2009 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reddog     Edit/Delete Message
I saw two bucks jung up in high fences this past Saturday. One shook loose in a second, the other I cut down, he was alive when I got him down, but did not survive.

Too many hunters can't actually hunt. They take high powered rifles, with 9X scopes and wait for something to come to a feeder. They have no idea what is behind the target, so they end up hitting other things when they miss any easy shot.

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Miss Chris
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posted November 09, 2009 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Chris     Edit/Delete Message
That's why I'm worried about my dog. He doesn't wander but I know the people next door have been getting ready with a deer feeder and all. He could just be unlucky enough to be in the line of fire.
I have had to save a couple of deer hung on fences. They totally freak out. The only way I could do it is by placing a shirt over there eyes.

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freewill
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posted November 09, 2009 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for freewill     Edit/Delete Message
The apex predators all being eliminated (except for the bubbas that frequent the woods this time of the year) seems more plausible. I hadn’t heard that the screwworm was the cause of deer overpopulation before. I do remember while growing up in the 50s and 60s, the worm (maggot) was touted as a threat to cattle and the way they eradicated it. They are still working to eliminate the screwworm in third-world countries to reduce starvation. That is very interesting indeed. The other side of the coin is; what would beef cost now if they hadn’t eradicated the screwworm? Is it better to allow the deer and cattle to die a slow horrible death from a bunch of maggots eating their live flesh? Of course that is only marginally crueler than being gut-shot by some city bozo with buck fever. Maybe putting birth-control pills in the corn, ‘til they are all gone would work?

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rammie01
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posted November 10, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rammie01     Edit/Delete Message
Freewill, I didn't say that eradicating the screwworm was a bad thing. It helped increase the cattle population tremendously as well as the related increases in wildlife populations. This in turn increased revenue from hunting leases, a major source of income for many livestock producers, not to mention the revenue from hunting licenses for the TP&W. In years of heavy infestation it was the screwworm that severely decreased the fawn population by as much as 80%. However, when we intervened without thinking ahead and eliminated the problem, good or bad, and created another problem – overpopulation. This has been ignored until now it is not only a problem for us but esp. for them as well. Starvation, being killed and dumped by poachers, hit by automobiles, just to name a few. You seemed to want to blame the overpopulation on a few who have fun feeding the deer, although I don’t agree with feeding them corn. You may not like them but don’t hate them, they are a beautiful part of this wonderful place we call “the hill country”. It is a shame to find a gorgeous buck “gut-shot by some bubba hunter” in the middle of your property which has happened on ours.

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