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peabody304
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posted April 29, 2008 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peabody304     Edit/Delete Message
We have a rainwater collection system and since we have to drain parts of it each time it rains, so we thought we might put a water trough out there for wildlife and just drain the system into the trough.

Does anyone know what size trough I should go with? Any recommendations?

Thanks.
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Reddog
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posted April 29, 2008 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reddog     Edit/Delete Message
Make sure the critters have an escape route, you don't want to start finding drowned things in your waterer. A pile of rocks will do. You mihgt also want to consider a rock pile outside the waterer to allow smaller things access.

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Miss Chris
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posted April 30, 2008 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Chris     Edit/Delete Message
We have a water trough too. I ran into problems with mosquitioes. Course that was last year when we had rain every day.

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posted July 23, 2009 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peabody304     Edit/Delete Message
The only thing worse than someone reviving an old thread is reviving your own old thread...

We did put in a water trough, complete with rocks inside and out, and it is being used.

http://peabody304.com/deer_fawns.jpg

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posted July 23, 2009 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck     Edit/Delete Message
It looks great, but aren't there some sort of laws restricing the taming of wild animals? Hey, I don't make this stuff up,the state of Texas is way smarter than me.

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peabody304
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posted July 24, 2009 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peabody304     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting comment. I'm not sure how you equate providing a water source for wildlife with "the taming of wild animals."

The deer on our property are anything but tame. If it weren't for the wildlife camera (Stealth Cam) we setup while we're away, we would never see the deer.

For what it's worth, I was about sixty miles away when this picture was taken.

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posted July 24, 2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for grnthumb     Edit/Delete Message
Your waterer looks GREAT!

Don't worry about starstruck - he sometimes likes to raise cain, especially if bored. I'm thinking he was joking, but maybe we should ask for a sarcasm sign on these forums.

That little doe with ribs sticking out surely looks like she appreciates the time and money you spent and hardly looks "tame", not to mention the speckly cute cute little twins. That's a mighty good thing you did in this terrible drought. We sure could do with more folks like you out here.

Now I want to set one up like that. Thanks for sharing this.

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posted July 24, 2009 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck     Edit/Delete Message
Get those deer out of the way, I want to wallow in that thing!

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peabody304
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posted July 26, 2009 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peabody304     Edit/Delete Message
Our wild life camera caught a new visitor to the water trough last week.

http://peabody304.com/fox_cropped_sm.jpg

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Miss Chris
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posted July 27, 2009 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Miss Chris     Edit/Delete Message
We have a fox with her little ones hanging around. I couldn't see her one night when she was hanging around our water trough. All I heard was a growl that made me run inside! The next night it happened again but this time I had my glasses on and could see it was a fox and not a gigantic cat. They are so beautiful. They make some strange noises too.

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posted July 27, 2009 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OTH     Edit/Delete Message
Kudos to all of you helping create a bit of habitat for the native creatures that we share this area with.

Another option on how to provide some water to wildlife can be found at http://haysmn.org/downloads/currentnews.pdf . Page 3 shows an inexpensive contraption that is self supporting and can be placed pretty much anywhere. The drinking bowl is not large (a pint or two) and is fed by gravity from the 50 gal barrel. A standard drip irrigation emitter (Home Depot or Lowe’s) controls the water to 1 or 2 drops per second. You don’t need a lot of volume to support the wildlife – they receive most of their water from what they eat. Deer will always eat the young, green vegetation first because it contains moisture and more protein than mature grass. When they can’t get that, they go after our gardens, which are generally watered and maintained.

Predators are in the same situation; their prey is generally alive and contains moisture.

These critters are not like cows and horses that are fed dry hay and feed – our domestic animals need a large amount of water just to digest their food.

The horse troughs work great, especially with the rocks for smaller animals to escape. But there is the issue of mosquitoes - These creatures are a nuisance to your neighbors; they pose a health risk to humans and to our song bird population. You may consider a few Mosquito fish (Gambusia affinis) in the tank – the females prefer mosquito larvae and have a large appetite. There are also some plants that will help control the algae in stagnant water.

While I have the soapbox – consider that Mother Nature knows best. The wildlife go through cycles based on the weather. There is not much we can do about that; this is the part of nature that deals with population control and the overall health of the species.

If you feed your birds in stationary feeders and provide water – please clean the feeders before re filling, likewise the bird baths. Not much different from us humans – the places where we congregate is where illnesses and disease will spread.

Please don’t feed corn to the deer – it contains less than 1/3 of the protein of their natural diet. Also, deer corn is not required to pass the same quality tests required for feed corn (domestic animals). There can be issues of toxins from mold, chemical residues, etc. Another similar situation: please do not feed bread to the birds – they can’t digest it. Humans like to eat popcorn; but we would not be healthy if it was the major part of our diet.

Texas Parks and Wildlife has a program called “Wildscapes” to promote backyard habitat. You are not required to complete the certification, but you can use some of their ideas. Here is a link to one of their brochures: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/pwdpubs/media/pwd_br_w7000_0861.pdf

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posted July 28, 2009 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reddog     Edit/Delete Message
Mosquito dunks with BT work too. You could also go with a J-tube, but they have to be refilled regularly.

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posted July 28, 2009 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Reddog     Edit/Delete Message
If your property is in Wildlife Mangement, one of the things yo can do is provide additional water. This waterer looks pretty good to me, I'd move the rock pile more to the center, but that's just my preference. I can't speak for everyone, but I've totaled just barely over an inch of rain for the last two months, and the critters are hurting. The waterers are getting hit harder than the food plots and feeders.

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posted July 28, 2009 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peabody304     Edit/Delete Message
There's some interesting information here. We don't have any kind of wildlife designation; we're just doing this for the wildlife (and for fun).

Since weather is so hot, and we do not get out there every week to refill the trough, I added a float valve to the tank this weekend. Since I did not want to risk some sort of failure that would drain my rainwater, I did not attach it to one of our big storage tanks.

So I put a 55 gallon barrel some distance away and attached the float valve to the barrel. It seemed to work when we tested it. I will be interested to see what the water level is this weekend when I head out there.
http://peabody304.com/trough_with_float_valve.JPG
That thing floating in the water is a sack of barley straw; it's supposed to help keep the tank clean. I admit it was an impulse purchase. We'll see if it works or not.

I've not seen mosquitoes in the tank yet. I'll look carefully this weekend.

At some point, I'm probably going to add another trough. We have a shed that I'm going to add gutters to so I can collect rain in barrels and use that to supply another trough.

The doe and her two fawns made a couple more visits to the trough last week.
http://peabody304.com/doe_and_two_fawns_7-23-09_sm.JPG

I've got a video if anyone is interested. We saw that our bird feeder were being emptied overnight, so we set up the wildlife camera to see what was going on. This video runs about 1 minute.
http://peabody304.com/Racoon_and_deer_at_bird_feeder2.wmv

-peabody
edited for spelling.

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posted July 28, 2009 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck     Edit/Delete Message
Ok peabody, you started it. This morning I heard someone walking around on my wooden deck. A deer had climbed the three steps and was drinking the water in the cats bowl. She polished off the cat food too for good measure. I may find out if a deer can be house broken at this rate.

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